{"id":47171,"date":"2025-09-29T09:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-09-29T07:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.freelancermap.com\/blog\/?p=47171"},"modified":"2025-10-10T11:03:05","modified_gmt":"2025-10-10T09:03:05","slug":"podcast-episode-3-maciej-koszyk","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.freelancermap.com\/blog\/podcast-episode-3-maciej-koszyk\/","title":{"rendered":"How Companies Really Work with Independent Talent &#8211; Episode 3 with Maciej Koszyk"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The future of work is no longer a distant vision, it\u2019s happening right now. Companies across Europe and beyond are increasingly relying on freelancers, contractors, and independent experts to deliver fast, flexible, and specialized results. But how do businesses make these collaborations work in practice?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To find out, we sat down with&nbsp;<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/maciejkoszyk\/\">Maciej<\/a><\/strong>, Head of Delivery at&nbsp;<strong>Devire\u2019s Center of Excellence for Recruitment and RPO Delivery<\/strong>, who has spent over 15 years shaping recruitment strategies for companies like Tesla, Uber, and many more. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Our conversation was packed with lessons, stories, and real-world insights into the opportunities and challenges of building the independent workforce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group is-content-justification-center is-nowrap is-layout-flex wp-container-core-group-is-layout-4 wp-block-group-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-background\" style=\"background-color:#f5f5f5\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"\ud83e\udd29 How Companies Really Work with Independent Talent | The Independent Workforce | Maciej Koszyk\" width=\"720\" height=\"405\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ISO3G0Nz66I?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" data-load-mode=\"1\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong>Enjoyed this episode?<br><\/strong>Subscribe now on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@freelancermapinternational\/podcasts\">YouTube<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/creators.spotify.com\/pod\/profile\/freelancermap\/episodes\/How-Companies-Really-Work-with-Independent-Talent--The-Independent-Workforce--Maciej-Koszyk-e38ocfm\">Spotify<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-independent-workforce\/id1840173073\">Apple Podcast<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.freelancermap.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/09\/The-Independent-Workforce-podcast-episode-3-Maciej-Koszyk.pdf\">\ud83d\udce9 Download the full transcript \ud83d\udce9<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Freelancers = Instant Impact<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>When asked about the biggest difference between freelancers and full-time hires, Maciej didn\u2019t hesitate:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>\u201cWhen you hire a freelancer, the expectation is instant value. You\u2019re not investing months into onboarding \u2014 you\u2019re bringing in an expert who can deliver from day one.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>This \u201cplug-and-play\u201d expectation is both a challenge and an advantage. For clients, it means results come fast. For freelancers, it demands sharp expertise and readiness to hit the ground running.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Communication is Everything<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Maciej stressed that hard skills alone aren\u2019t enough:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>\u201cA freelancer can be the best coder in the world, but if they don\u2019t communicate, the whole project risks breaking down.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Strong communication ensures not only smooth delivery but also trust between all parties. Interestingly, Maciej sometimes values communication as highly as technical skills: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>\u201cEqually important as programming skills, for example, are the abilities to communicate well, adapt to a fast pace, and align with the client\u2019s expectations.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>The lesson? For freelancers, being a great communicator is just as critical as being a great technician.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Challenges on Both Sides<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>From the&nbsp;<strong>client\u2019s side<\/strong>, compliance is often the biggest hurdle:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>\u201cLarger companies have procurement procedures and legal blockers that slow down the process. Sometimes it\u2019s not a real issue but just a mental barrier.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>From the&nbsp;<strong>freelancer\u2019s side<\/strong>, project attractiveness is the key factor:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>\u201cTop experts have options. They won\u2019t drop everything for a project that doesn\u2019t excite them \u2014 or doesn\u2019t pay fairly.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>This highlights the importance of&nbsp;<strong>realistic expectations<\/strong>. Not every company can attract the \u201cBeyonc\u00e9 of freelancing,\u201d but there\u2019s a vast pool of highly skilled, reliable professionals ready to deliver.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Speed and Networks Matter<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>In the world of freelance hiring, speed is everything.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>\u201cSometimes we place a freelancer within 24 to 48 hours. To do that, you need a strong talent pool \u2014 not just a database, but relationships.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Databases provide names. Networks provide trust. As Maciej explained, the best freelancers are often recommended by other freelancers, making referrals one of the most powerful hiring tools.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Success = Repeat Business<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>How do you measure whether a freelance collaboration really worked? Maciej\u2019s answer was refreshingly simple:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>\u201cSuccess isn\u2019t a nice email saying, \u2018Well done.\u2019 Success is when a client says, \u2018Let\u2019s do it again.\u2019 Repeat business is the ultimate proof.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>This reaffirms that freelancing is a business. Reputation and reliability aren\u2019t just soft factors \u2014 they\u2019re survival strategies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">AI &amp; The Future of Recruitment<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Naturally, we had to talk about AI. While Maciej sees the hype, he\u2019s cautious about its immediate impact:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>\u201cWe\u2019re already seeing AI-generated job descriptions and AI-generated CVs \u2014 sometimes completely detached from reality. The danger is we end up matching robots to robots instead of real people to projects.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Still, he believes freelancers who&nbsp;<strong>equip themselves with AI tools<\/strong>&nbsp;will stand out:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>\u201cA freelancer today can be a one-person army \u2014 not just with skills, but with the tools to deliver more, faster.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Role of Staffing Companies<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>With freelancers becoming mainstream, where do staffing companies fit in? According to Maciej, their role is shifting from \u201cproviders\u201d to&nbsp;<strong>trust brokers<\/strong>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>\u201cClients don\u2019t always trust freelancers they don\u2019t know. But when a trusted consultant recommends them, the relationship becomes easier. We reduce the fear of the unknown.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>This human trust layer \u2014 something AI can\u2019t replace (yet) \u2014 is what keeps staffing companies relevant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>For companies considering freelancers for the first time, Maciej\u2019s advice was clear and simple:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>\u201cDon\u2019t overthink it. Find a trusted partner, set clear expectations, and just try. The best way to learn is to start.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Key Takeaways from the Episode<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Freelancers deliver&nbsp;<strong>instant value<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014 but only if expectations are clear.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Communication skills are often as important as technical skills.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Clients worry about compliance; freelancers worry about project attractiveness.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The best matches come from&nbsp;<strong>networks, not just databases<\/strong>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Success =&nbsp;<strong>repeat business<\/strong>, not just one-off praise.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>AI will transform recruitment, but human trust still matters most.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Working with freelancers isn\u2019t just about filling a gap \u2014 it\u2019s about&nbsp;<strong>building agility, speed, and innovation<\/strong>&nbsp;into the way companies grow. As Maciej put it best:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>The future of work is already here. The companies who learn how to collaborate with independent experts will have the edge.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.freelancermap.com\/registration?ref=blog-com-podcast-maciej\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"300\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.freelancermap.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/build-flexible-teams-with-freelancers.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-47322 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.freelancermap.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/build-flexible-teams-with-freelancers.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.freelancermap.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/build-flexible-teams-with-freelancers-300x88.png 300w, https:\/\/www.freelancermap.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/build-flexible-teams-with-freelancers-768x225.png 768w, https:\/\/www.freelancermap.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/build-flexible-teams-with-freelancers-720x211.png 720w, https:\/\/www.freelancermap.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/build-flexible-teams-with-freelancers-580x170.png 580w, https:\/\/www.freelancermap.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/build-flexible-teams-with-freelancers-320x94.png 320w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1024px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1024\/300;\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Freelancers are the workforce of today. In this podcast episode, Maciej, Head of Delivery at Devire\u2019s Center of Excellence, shares lessons from 15+ years of recruitment experience with global giants like Tesla and Uber. 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